Manfred visits td124 !!!...

mannitheear escreveu:

It may sound a little too flattering, but here in the AAP I often find a far more holistic, profound and relaxed approach to music and audio than elsewhere which pleases me very much. Ties of friendship have a high value here and you all can really be proud on that culture!

Cheers
Manfred

Thanks Manfred. And I would like to acknowledge that you bound in very well and have been an enrichment to our little but healthy fórum.

That's the spirit !!!

Thank you Manfred and Paulo for allowing us to share a bit of this encounter and for the discussing around the technicality of the uncommon solutions that Paulo applied on is OWN system.

mannitheear escreveu:

Manfred visits TD 124 - Part Four "The next level"
...  it had the musical flow and impact Paulo loves so with MM. (sidenote: MC users can have these qualites too, with a Brutus... ahem) ...

Paulos turntable concept convinced me and now I dream of my own elaborate Lenco... ...

I'm not totaly deaf, but i'm almost blind!, so i can't read what you've wrote... is about MC's???... do you still listen that kind of stuff?... i thought that you loved music...

For the Lenco, i'm happy but, its a little bit more complicated... i'll talk about latter!...

António José da Silva escreveu:

...
Now it is clear to all of us that Paulo's system has put a spell on you.  ...

No, before Manfred, was td124 that felt in love with Paulo's system... and he own's one now!!!...  

mannitheear escreveu:

...

It may sound a little too flattering, but here in the AAP I often find a far more holistic, profound and relaxed approach to music and audio than elsewhere which pleases me very much. Ties of friendship have a high value here and you all can really be proud on that culture!

Cheers
Manfred

Manfred, as administrator and member of the AAP, your words sound like wonderful music and i apreciate very deep, your thoughts about that (our) house... THANKS!!!

Cheers from Paulo

Today a view on Paulos sleeping beauties...





Sorry for the suboptimal photos, but it was a little late dark - and I didn't want to disturb them with a flash



Here a impression of the unique amplifier which Paulo designed. It is the prototype of the production run and is very clever, versatile and elegant:
tubes - true hybrid technology - 10 w - custom made output transformers - short signal path - microcontroller & remote control (I love that, yeah!) - built in DAC ...

Real craftsmanship in every detail.

António José da Silva escreveu:

Real craftsmanship in every detail.  

Antonio, i don't pretend to be a craftsman... and unfortunately I'm not an artist too!... so I'm a bad hybrid between Rui Borges and Bill Gates, in audio that means that I'm a mule!!!...

But, you know it!, I'm not a bad guy!!!... I even love progressive rock, so there's hope for me!!!!!

Many kisses, from a rainy (almost british...) France!!!... and Scotland is always with you???

Cheers

TD124 escreveu:

in audio that means that I'm a mule!!!...

A ugly one....

António José da Silva escreveu:

TD124 escreveu:

in audio that means that I'm a mule!!!...

A ugly one....

How dare you?... and what about Scotland ???...

Abraço

TD124 escreveu:

I even love progressive rock, so there's hope for me!!!!!

That's fine! Welcome to the club of bad musical taste...



Edit: allowed by the music police are only free jazz, real Punk, Bach and perhaps some selected Chinese noise music...

mannitheear escreveu:

TD124 escreveu:

I even love progressive rock, so there's hope for me!!!!!

That's fine! Welcome to the club of bad musical taste...



Edit: allowed by the music police are only free jazz, real Punk, Bach and perhaps some selected Chinese noise music...

That reminds me Berlin in the 80's, when I was student!!!... Achtung Baby

By the way, look at this:

We are Anti-T from Paulo Marcelo on Vimeo.

That will remind you things, that you've seen here... but not heard!!!...

Cheers

Belas imagens.

TD124 escreveu:

By the way, look at this:

We are Anti-T from Paulo Marcelo on Vimeo.

That will remind you things, that you've seen here... but not heard!!!...

Cheers

Dear Paulo,

thank you very much for sharing this great video!!!

Beautiful, unearthly melancholy music, too.

(BTW, ordered a few days ago the two LPs from soap @ skin!)

Cheers
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

(BTW, ordered a few days ago the two LPs from soap @ skin!)

Cheers
Manfred

I had a quick listening on youtube....very interesting indeed.

mannitheear escreveu:

...

Dear Paulo,

...

Beautiful, unearthly melancholy music, too.

(BTW, ordered a few days ago the two LPs from soap @ skin!)

Cheers
Manfred

We haven't the time, so can't show you (listen) all my "underground music"!!!... for the next time

But give a chance also to "Son Lux", a terrific project by a New York musician from the underground scene!!!... the album is “At War With Walls and Mazes”


... and I'm happy that Anja Franziska Plaschg (aka Soap & Skin) put a spell on you, she deserves that!!!

Cheers

Pois... excelente "vídeo",só "coisas" lindas, boa música.... mas...
aquele "braço" fininho... com a "custoMizada" 75...
...é de por um "mec" a babar-se... todinho!

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

... mas...  aquele "braço" fininho... com a "custoMizada" 75...   ...é de por um "mec" a babar-se... todinho!...    

Olà Luis, estàs a falar desta coisa feia... que mais pareçe uma cana de pesca, e que pescou  uma M75?


Obrigado pelas palavras

Paulo

TD124 escreveu:

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

... mas...  aquele "braço" fininho... com a "custoMizada" 75...   ...é de por um "mec" a babar-se... todinho!...    

Olà Luis, estàs a falar desta coisa feia... que mais pareçe uma cana de pesca, e que pescou  uma M75?


Obrigado pelas palavras

Paulo

Afirmativo, meu caro!

Lindo!!!
Cana de pesca????  Ferrari... com certeza! (o toque do peso em "rosso" ...)
Ver essas tuas belezas... Thorens, Garrad, Lenco's... braços para todos os "paladares"...
não sei bem porquê, tenho um fascínio pelos braços tipo Reed.
Eu é que agradeço.
Obrigado, Paulo
Abç

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

...
não sei bem porquê, tenho um fascínio pelos braços tipo Reed. ...

Nesse caso, estes devem também te fascinar... são do estilo técnologico dos Reed !

Até+

TD124 escreveu:

But give a chance also to "Son Lux", a terrific project by a New York musician from the underground scene!!!... the album is “At War With Walls and Mazes”

Great music and big sound via Spotify -> ifi iDSD nano -> TD1543 mini Olympic DAC...

Thanks for sharing Son Lux!

TD124 escreveu:

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

...
não sei bem porquê, tenho um fascínio pelos braços tipo Reed.  ...

Nesse caso, estes devem também te fascinar... são do estilo técnologico dos Reed !

Até+

Sim, sim... mas, os Reed...
Abraço

mannitheear escreveu:

Today a view on Paulos sleeping beauties...
...  microcontroller & remote control (I love that, yeah!) - built in DAC ...  

And you forget, ... built in phono, the only thing he doesn't have integrated is the coffee machine!!!...

mannitheear escreveu:

TD124 escreveu:

But give a chance also to "Son Lux", a terrific project by a New York musician from the underground scene!!!... the album is “At War With Walls and Mazes”

Great music and big sound via Spotify -> ifi iDSD nano -> TD1543 mini Olympic DAC...  

I have nothing against digital as you know!... but Son Lux, is on vinyl ... and you get free the CD inside!!!... you must upgrade that Olympic DAC, till he wins the gold medal...

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

...  Sim, sim... mas, os Reed...
Abraço

Ah, l'amour !!!... jà sabes qual é o remédio a esse amor!

Até+

Sorry for forgetting the integrated Phono Pre which must be very, very good.

TD124 escreveu:

I have nothing against digital as you know!... but Son Lux, is on vinyl ... and you get free the CD inside!!!... you must upgrade that Olympic DAC, till he wins the gold medal...

In Spotify I can check out instantly the music - and yet it makes me goosebumps. When I know what I like best I will order some vinyl albums of Son Lux.

...But how to upgrade the Olympic DAC? Makes me curious.

Cheer
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

...

...But how to upgrade the Olympic DAC? Makes me curious.

Cheer
Manfred

First of all, you've promised to talk about "Art & Zen", so obviously i'm curious... and then i'll talk about "digital & upgrades"... its not so poetically, but may conduces to poetry when well done!!!...

Cheers

[quote="TD124"]

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

Ah, l'amour !!!...

Até+

.. mais, l'amour est dur ...
Abç

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

TD124 escreveu:

Luis Filipe Goios escreveu:

Ah, l'amour !!!...

Até+

...
.. mais, l'amour est dur ...  
Abç

Dur ou cher ???... le prix gâche souvent l'amour !!!...

Abraço

Manfred visits TD 124 - Zen, Art, respect and technical stuff

Then I asked Paulo, if he did modify his speakers. "I do not modify anything that I like!", he responded. Today it is common with many audiophiles, that almost any component can and should be improved with "better" parts, a "better" power supply and so on. While this is true with some industrial mass products, hifi products of smaller firms are often created by one person as mastermind and then manufactured after his (or her) specifications in relatively small quantities. If the creator was successfull, Paulo deeply respects this as a finished piece of work.
It is kind of a modern and quite common arrogance (my word, not Paolo's!) to think being smarter or knowing better than the designer and being able to improve every hifi product. If we compare a hifi product to a piece of art, it gets perhaps clearer: obviously it is a quite absurd idea to "improve" a painting with some additional strokes of the brush or a piece of music with additional notes...
Of course industrial mass products are a bit different: they are designed by anonymous teams and manufactured often under cost pressure. These products can not seldom be improved if it is basically good.

Many audiophiles know very well the impulse to change and improve their system permanently to make it sounding "better". This can get quite obsessive and Paulo has observed, that only listening to music is simply not enough for many audiophiles! He recommends to practice a litte more Zen in audio. His own system remained basically unchanged for years!
And I think he is right: if we like the sound of our system - why should we change it? Too simple? Would it not be perhaps much more rewarding rather listening to music than comparing components, cables etc.? If the system seems to sound not so good the other day, maybe it is due to another mood or that we did not choose a suitable music for the moment. Likely not the system is different - but oneself. Zen and other eastern inspired wisdom can help us to get more calm, conscious and satisfied instead of the usual western type of permanent struggling.
It is interesting to observe oneself when listening to music: where does the attention go? To the music, it's flow, continuous changes and inner beauty or to the sonic flaws (real or imaginary) of the presentation? Do we even listen to the music or do we prefer to stay with our thoughts of the day?

All these things were not unfamiliar to me, but the visit at Paulo gave me a new and unexpected strong imulse on these points. I know the endless and exhausting search after good sound very good. Returning home I discovered that I was already (almost) there! I now can sit down and listen and enjoy very much every kind of music I like, whether analogue or digital. Amazing!

Back to modifying. Paulo likes the classic idler wheel turntables and has much experinece with the iconic models Thorens TD124 (of course!), the Garrard 301 and the Lenco L75. The first two ones are professional, well made devices which have their own chracteristic sound which could hardly can be improved as Paulo discovered. But just the modest Lenco, which was given to Paulo as a gift to complete his collection, sounded very promising after reworking and repairing it. It is well and ingeniously designed, but as a relatively modestly priced consumer product it suffers a bit from cost pressure. Improving his weak points made it sound surprisingly superior to the famous and far more expensive Thorens and Garrard models.

Then we talked about different approaches in audio design. Paulo sees 2 opposite poles - the artistic approach and the scientific approach. Both can lead to very good products if well and consequently made. As example for an totally artistic audio designer, Paulo mentioned Bernard Salabert which developed the famous PHY fullrange chassis. Paulo was a friend of Salabert, who died unfortunately in 2011. He followed his ideas and intuition consequently and created a range of loudspeaker chassis which became very famous worldwide due to their immediacy in sound. I heard myself a few years ago some PHY-based speakers, especially the Rondo which is the probably best known model and we talked about our impressions. Paulo stated that the rondo made many things very well, I remembered that it's sound had a very strong emotional impact but I could not live with the missing treble.

His own approach Paulo called more scientific, in my perception his sense of art and philosophical aspects are very important factors, too.

Cheers
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

It is kind of a modern and quite common arrogance (my word, not Paolo's!) to think being smarter or knowing better than the designer and being able to improve every hifi product.

It's funny that you mention that, because it reminds me of some people I have met over the years that think likewise. But what makes it more ridicules is that they have no understanding of the basic principles of audio electronics, and they still believe they know it better (some audiophile people are funny).      


Would it not be perhaps much more rewarding rather listening to music than comparing components, cables etc.?

I do make that same question over and over again.


Back to modifying. Paulo likes the classic idler wheel turntables and has much experinece with the iconic models Thorens TD124 (of course!), the Garrard 301 and the Lenco L75. The first two ones are professional, well made devices which have their own chracteristic sound which could hardly can be improved as Paulo discovered. But just the modest Lenco, which was given to Paulo as a gift to complete his collection, sounded very promising after reworking and repairing it. It is well and ingeniously designed, but as a relatively modestly priced consumer product it suffers a bit from cost pressure. Improving his weak points made it sound surprisingly superior to the famous and far more expensive Thorens and Garrard models.

The experience of many people is that a well recovered Lenco, Garrard and TD-124 are still great playback devices.

Then we talked about different approaches in audio design. Paulo sees 2 opposite poles - the artistic approach and the scientific approach. Both can lead to very good products if well and consequently made. As example for an totally artistic audio designer, Paulo mentioned Bernard Salabert which developed the famous PHY fullrange chassis. Paulo was a friend of Salabert, who died unfortunately in 2011. He followed his ideas and intuition consequently and created a range of loudspeaker chassis which became very famous worldwide due to their immediacy in sound. I heard myself a few years ago some PHY-based speakers, especially the Rondo which is the probably best known model and we talked about our impressions. Paulo stated that the rondo made many things very well, I remembered that it's sound had a very strong emotional impact but I could not live with the missing treble.


Perhaps the scientific approach serving the artist, is the way that leads to audio nirvana.

His own approach Paulo called more scientific, in my perception his sense of art and philosophical aspects are very important factors, too.

Cheers
Manfred

Thanks a lot for yet another insightful report. Its always a pleasure to read the chronicles of you visit.

mannitheear escreveu:

Manfred visits TD 124 - Zen, Art, respect and technical stuff

... Paulo was a friend of Salabert, who died unfortunately in 2011. He followed his ideas and intuition consequently ...

I'm going to tell you one story: One day I went visit B. Salabert, and when I saw him, he has glad almost euphoric, and he told me; Paulo I've made a tonearm!!!

- What???, a tonearm, but Bernard you don't know a single mechanical law, and you made a tonearm?

-Yes, he makes 15" and he is entirely made of brass, I'm proud of it!!!

-Brass?, you mean 15" of brass, my god your stuff have a height of 500g at least, I told him laughing...

-I don't mind, he looks well and he works even better, and it was my dream so you can tell what you want.

Then he showed me the tonearm, and I was jealous of him. Not because he made the best tonearm of earth, but because his innocence I haven't anymore, and I was unable to make a non-scientific dream... and I felt myself as someone who begun to be, a sad and pathetic designer. It was a big lesson to me!...

Cheers

Is it the tonearm with the camel hump on the back?

António José da Silva escreveu:

Is it the tonearm with the camel hump on the back?  

Yes, I've put a photo... it is a beautiful and old looking object

TD124 escreveu:

António José da Silva escreveu:

Is it the tonearm with the camel hump on the back?  

Yes, I've put a photo... it is a beautiful and old looking object

Sorry, the picture didn't pop up at fist, but now I see it.

António José da Silva escreveu:

mannitheear escreveu:

... It is well and ingeniously designed, but as a relatively modestly priced consumer product it suffers a bit from cost pressure. Improving his weak points made it sound surprisingly superior to the famous and far more expensive Thorens and Garrard models.

The experience of many people is that a well recovered Lenco, Garrard and TD-124 are still great playback devices. ...

Thanks a lot for yet another insightful report... I completely agree, thanks for your work!!!

A well modified Lenco, is very superior to the TD-124 and 301/401 (its more neutral...). The problem is that most of time, they are repaired and putted in their original condition in a good plinth, and in that case they can't compete, with those monsters...  mine was pathetic in comparison, at the time he was in original condition. Most of upgrades, corrupt more the sound than at the basis, and don't help to go further...

Cheers

mannitheear escreveu:

Manfred visits TD 124 - Zen, Art, respect and technical stuff
...
It is kind of a modern and quite common arrogance (my word, not Paolo's!) to think being smarter or knowing better than the designer and being able to improve every hifi product. ...

RESPECT!, is a word that doesn't exist in audio anymore,... he had been replaced by the word EGO!...

if we like the sound of our system - why should we change it? Too simple? Would it not be perhaps much more rewarding rather listening to music than comparing components, cables etc.? ...

Most of "pseudo-audiophiles", want to get control of their systems, so they become singular and unique. They want them to become their thing, not only by property but by sensitive and intellectual properties, and that's why they do that !... it's simply, a pathetic and desperate way of creation I think ...

Returning home I discovered that I was already (almost) there! I now can sit down and listen and enjoy very much every kind of music I like, whether analogue or digital. Amazing! ...

Most of times we are already in the truth,... but we don't know or believe it !!!

Paulo sees 2 opposite poles - the artistic approach and the scientific approach. Both can lead to very good products if well and consequently made. ...

Everything that is done with honesty can lead to good results, if we believe in what we do!

His own approach Paulo called more scientific, in my perception his sense of art and philosophical aspects are very important factors, too.

For some time ago, I try to put science on the service of art... and by the moment, is ok for me... cos simply is better !!!

Cheers
Manfred

Thank's a lot for your text, and I think that music/audio & fidelity, deserves a long, rich and controversial topic ...

Cheers

TD124 escreveu:

RESPECT!, is a word that doesn't exist in audio anymore,... he had been replaced by the word EGO!...

Dear Paulo,

this is complex and I believe it has to do with the dissappearance of truth in the everyday life. Let me explain that from the perspective of a audio customer.

Modifying can begin with the simple and non-destructive act of tube-rolling.

In the best of all worlds I would buy a tube amp and the designer tells me, that the tubes inside are carefully chosen. Of course, if I feel the need, I could try other tubes. I know the designer is honest and simply let the amp as it is.

More likely, I would buy a tube amp from a audio company and the marketing department tells me, that the tubes inside are carefully chosen. I open the amp and find cheap tubes of an common brand, carefully chosen only regarding low cost. Of course I try other tubes and find the sound much improved. So, the respect dissappears.

My honest opinion is, that many audio offerings today are close to fraud. 60.000 € phono pres, 8.000 € cartridges, 100.000 € turntables, 3.000 € cables - what would you call that?
The whole audio industry suffers from these excesses because too many companies and customers have lost the relation to reality long ago and abandoned the truth and the audio press applaudes!

As a result many customers have lost the confidence in the industry. The talented make their own devices, others rely on professional audio products or search the ultimative bargain from China.

Please tell me I'm to pessimistic!

Cheers
Manfred

TD124 escreveu:

Dur ou cher ???... le prix gâche souvent l'amour !!!...  

Abraço

Dur et cher... le prix gache... complètement d'accord!
Abç

Hi Man,
I'll use your post to give you, step by step my thoughts...

mannitheear escreveu:

...

Dear Paulo,

this is complex and I believe it has to do with the dissappearance of truth in the everyday life. Let me explain that from the perspective of a audio customer.

Modifying can begin with the simple and non-destructive act of tube-rolling.

It's an old and boring affair in the TubeWorld!... but every one does what he wants in democracy  

In the best of all worlds I would buy a tube amp and the designer tells me, that the tubes inside are carefully chosen. Of course, if I feel the need, I could try other tubes. I know the designer is honest and simply let the amp as it is.

What means "carefully chosen"???... in my life I've made something like 16 "commercial products", using "valves", and I'm not counting those for myself or friends. Without exception, they were equipped with sovtek tubes, not because I think that they sound better, but because they are reliable an friendly cost, so they have a good ratio/price. Of course, a lot of costumers send me mails asking for my opinion about NOS or "Audiophile-tubes", and I've always said the same: I use the same ones, and I don't need to change, so you can do what you want if they are the same type!!!... but I don't think that will sound better, in the best case it sounds only different...

More likely, I would buy a tube amp from a audio company and the marketing department tells me, that the tubes inside are carefully chosen. I open the amp and find cheap tubes of an common brand, carefully chosen only regarding low cost. Of course I try other tubes and find the sound much improved. So, the respect disappears.

That's cheating with customers in most of cases, but not always. Nagra works with sovtek or electro-harmonix, but I've seen in factory how the tubes are tested and chosen in reliability and specs... and only 1/3 of the tubes are selected to be used, so there's a lot of waste. It's serious as production, but have a cost! In that case, we should not see the brand of the tube, but the company's serious control work...

My honest opinion is, that many audio offerings today are close to fraud. 60.000 € phono pres, 8.000 € cartridges, 100.000 € turntables, 3.000 € cables - what would you call that?
The whole audio industry suffers from these excesses because too many companies and customers have lost the relation to reality long ago and abandoned the truth and the audio press applauds!

If we except my speakers that are very expensive, but they are a work tool for me and necessary, all my audio stuff are what: No separated preamplifier, Dac or phono... no audiophile MC cartridge with expensive MC step up, no tubes phono stage or Dac, no tangential tonearm from Goldmund or Turntable from Rockport or Linn... just simple and healthy components... there'se no need for more to impress (in musical listening) someone, even my friends with Onken's, 120 watts tube amplifiers and all the "audiophile stuff"!!! So, all the things at $$$$$$$$, I'm not customer "anymore"... but its their choice to make it like that, and I'm sure that many "audiophiles" appreciate the exclusive price or prestige of that elements. There are even people who loves Lyra ...    

As a result many customers have lost the confidence in the industry. The talented make their own devices, others rely on professional audio products or search the ultimate bargain from China.

I think that the choice it's not so binary... the problem is the costumer culture and believes. I'ts necessary to create an opposite line to the mainstream, so people can chose more properly !!!...

Please tell me I'm to pessimistic!

It's normal, because that's what you see, but recently you've seen other things with me: You have liked the sound of my system but you've been surprised with my speakers. You were in the "mainstream audiophile imaging", that presuppose that a great audiophile have horn, or full range speakers, and in every case very high efficient speakers, with SE triodes and unconventional technologies!!! And, if you had come 6 or 7 years ago, it will be the case... but not any more, because I've grown a little bit ...
So, you are not pessimist, but you still want to believe in something... so I'm going to tell you a secret, that nobody will tell you: There are no true in, valves, triodes, MC's, horns, tangential tonearms and all the mainstream ideas, technological or artistic/holistic...

The only true, is when music touch's everybody without exception and makes you vibe and believe!!!...

It's not easy, not even complicated... but its rare, because after that there's nothing to say about audio, but just speak about music... and maybe we are not prepared yet... and maybe not you also...

Cheers
Manfred

Wisely answered, as ever!

For over 30 years I was in search of a system that pleases me each time it use it and with almost every recording (except THE ONE).

Now I am quite close - but it seems I have accumulated much mental garbage on that way. Laughing - and let go!

mannitheear escreveu:

... but it seems I have accumulated much mental garbage on that way. ...

We all, have accumulate a lot of garbage, ... and maybe it's not that way the good thinking act !...

We all, love music!... so we see in the "audio machines", the prophet that will lead us to the impenetrable and exquisite power of the music. That gives us wings, thoughts, feelings that we love to share with the others, that equally feel the same, and at the end this creates places like the forums...

Seen that way is "almost" healthy and poetical, and doesn't create any harm. The problem is, when some people start to create dogmas, complete worlds and absolute directions to the truth !!!... cos forums is just words and pictures, and these things don't make music, so the proof is impossible. If you haven't heard my system, it will remain obscure and unpredictable the results, by is singularity. But now, that you've heard, your spirit have changed and you know that music exists elsewhere, not only in the audiophile or obscure audio mainstream...

But, and the most important... I think and expect you've learn, that the most important is not "what audio stuff we have"... but what we do with!!!... and that's something to talk about again and again, in a very passionate and healthy way... because, many people chose a product, but don't know what to do with, expecting that the product is alive and he will do by himself the work, and create the feelings...

Only man (and god for who believes) do something!!!... the material is only a fake promess, even the better ones... but it help!!!... contradiction is the soul of audio, and fidelity best enemy !!!!

Cheers

Here would be probably the perfect place to tell us what to do with the Olympic...

mannitheear escreveu:

Here would be probably the perfect place to tell us what to do with the Olympic...

Ok, lets go !!!

The first step is to upgrade the quality of the power supply, that is always a week point on most audio devices like that. You have the choice between a linear power supply as this one:

http://www.audiophonics.fr/fr/alimentations-alimentations-lineaires/module-alimentation-lineaire-regule-lt1083-35v-75a-p-8425.html

Or, in a more "audiophile" way, to connect directly to a battery. It will be no more parasits neither garbage on the power supply, but the sound is special, more smooth and sensual...

http://www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/250177/?utm_source=google-search-product&utm_medium=comparateur&utm_campaign=250177&WT.mc_id=comparateur-gsp-250177&LGWCODE=250177;43857;390&gclid=CNKxmKyi-cACFaYIwwodoGkABg

This is examples in france, but you will find the same in german sites, or in town!!!...

Cheers

TD124 escreveu:

Or, in a more "audiophile" way, to connect directly to a battery. It will be no more parasits neither garbage on the power supply, but the sound is special, more smooth and sensual...

This is what I did already, but instead of a 12 V battery I used a 9.8 V RC Racing Pack according to the specified 10 V voltage supply of the Olympic. But I have also 12 V battery and can test that, too.

Cheers
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

TD124 escreveu:

Or, in a more "audiophile" way, to connect directly to a battery. It will be no more parasits neither garbage on the power supply, but the sound is special, more smooth and sensual...

This is what I did already, but instead of a 12 V battery I used a 9.8 V RC Racing Pack according to the specified 10 V voltage supply of the Olympic. But I have also 12 V battery and can test that, too.

Cheers
Manfred

Ok, in that case you can forget what I've said about battery! And if you are happy with the dinamics, you can rest like that... otherwise you can try a linear power supply...

Another tips will follow, and ask if you have doubts

Cheers

Dear Paulo,

you are right with the somewhat smooth sound with battery. I could not detect lack of resolution in the long term.
At dynamics I am not so sure! Sometimes I wish a little more impact, other recordings are quite fine.

When I switch to my North Star Essensio, at the first look the Essensio seems to have more information. But after a hour or so listening, the Essensio begins to annoy with some hardness in the mids. I have the impression, that the seemingly higher resolution is only a small artificial "sounding" of the Essensio.

But it's hard to get really clear about these things. I do not want to be an audio designer...

Thanks very much for getting into this topic and take the time you need!!! I'm very curious what to come.

Cheers
Manfred

PS: the start of the turntable topic is first-rate!

mannitheear escreveu:

Dear Paulo,

... I do not want to be an audio designer...  ...

Man, I don't want to turn you on a designer, cos its a stupid and technical work, but I'm going to turn you into an accomplished audiophile... and that's really cool , because you're going to touch the art & zen...

First of all, don't think about the differences that you hear between two devices!... but the qualities that you feel in each one!!!... once this made, the differences are evident, and are true!... Experiment this !!!

Step by step, you are going to learn how to listen!... and in audio, learn how to listen is start to breathe!

Every changing in the Dac, will be audible and clear,... its a promess and no need to be engineer!!!

Cheers

TD124 escreveu:

Man, I don't want to turn you on a designer, cos its a stupid and technical work, but I'm going to turn you into an accomplished audiophile... and that's really cool   , because you're going to touch the art & zen...

First of all, don't think about the differences that you hear between two devices!... but the qualities that you feel in each one!!!... once this made, the differences are evident, and are true!... Experiment this !!!

Step by step, you are going to learn how to listen!... and in audio, learn how to listen is start to breathe!

Every changing in the Dac, will be audible and clear,... its a promess and no need to be engineer!!!

Cheers

That sounds very, very promising!

Actually, I have made a certificate in electrical engineering some centuries ago, but never worked in r&d and so I forgot all I have learned.
But I can still hold a soldering iron! It's a pity only that I'm 50 and therefore almost sightless...
So, please no too difficult tasks! But I managed even to glue the SMD parts on the Olympic board, so there is hope.

mannitheear escreveu:

...
So, please no too difficult tasks! But I managed even to glue the SMD parts on the Olympic board, so there is hope.

Don't horry, we are going to make it at my way!... and this means a bottle of bier in one hand and iron solder on the other one!... and music at the end

Cheers

That's a very refined way of audio engineering! Est-ce que ça marche aussi avec un verre de rosé?

Cheers
Manfred

mannitheear escreveu:

Est-ce que ça marche aussi avec un verre de rosé?  

Cheers
Manfred

German or English please.

mannitheear escreveu:

That's a very refined way of audio engineering! Est-ce que ça marche aussi avec un verre de rosé?  

Cheers
Manfred

No, a glass of Rosé is my trademark and is protected by law!... so you rest with your german bier


Now, you're going to buy 2 capacitors Philips 0.1µF 250v on ebay, and soldered them were is shown!!!

You will tell me the results when done!...

Cheers

TD124 escreveu:

No, a glass of Rosé is my trademark and is protected by law!... so you rest with your german bier

Pah, I will take this excellent one from the double bass vineyard just next door!